Scarborough Country

August 23, 2005

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: You know, we were merely able to just describe, describe Joran with only a part, a portion of his name. And they knew immediately who he was, and the quote was from an employee that he tends to prey upon European and American female tourists.

SCARBOROUGH: And they knew that, and yet they allowed him to continue to go in and prey on people. And, of course, the results have been so tragic in this case.

I want to ask you about the other women, though, reports coming forward. Clint Van Zandt went deep inside the investigation last week, found out that other women had allegedly been complaining about possibly being drugged and raped by Joran Van Der Sloot. What is your response to this new information coming in?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, I‘m not surprised at all.

And, you know, Joe, this is courageous of these young women to come forward like this. And, you know, and it‘s not easy. And I totally can see why this young girl contacted an attorney first. You know, my experience, contacting the police first, you know, I really was not treated with any sense of urgency. So, you know, I think that I know why she went that route.

And I think that, you know, I really respect her for doing this, and I just hope that, once she has received—you know, giving her statement, that she is just treated with respect and dignity and not just interrogated over something like this, or I just—it‘s just—it‘s just very difficult for these young girls to come forward.

SCARBOROUGH: Beth, I want you to stay right there.

I want to bring in right now with you, though, former FBI profiler, MSNBC analyst Clint Van Zandt.

Clint, obviously, we have to say right here, these are just allegations. But what can you tell us about this young woman that is coming forward, that has hired an attorney...

CLINT VAN ZANDT, MSNBC ANALYST: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: ... that‘s ready to basically break, possibly break this case by talking about what Joran Van Der Sloot, again, allegedly does to young women that go to Aruba?

VAN ZANDT: Well, Joe, you know, this is something that Beth has been appealing for a long time. I think that the behavior that is attributed to at least Joran Van Der Sloot and perhaps others—I mean, these guys just didn‘t fall off the turnip truck.

This is behavior that‘s probably been there for a while, may well have been exhibited with other women. And now to have, as Beth says, these—at least one woman step forward. There are others that I have heard of when I was down there that may or may not have had similar experiences. What it‘s going to take and show to the judge, show to the court, show to the community, that this is not an aberration perhaps on the part of these suspects, that there is a prior consistent type of behavior that is there.

And, of course, if these allegations are true, notwithstanding the impact that it could have on Natalee‘s disappearance, these would be independent criminal violations that they could be charged for, stand-alone, and it may stop the clock as far as turning Joran Van Der Sloot loose within a month. It could have a tremendous impact on this case.

SCARBOROUGH: And, of course, it could also have a tremendous impact on Carlos ‘n Charlie‘s. I want to keep going back to that, because I can tell you, if they knew what type of behavior was being exhibited by Joran and the Kalpoe brothers and allowed them to keep coming in, preying on young women like this, it is not going to be a pretty scene, not a pretty picture for that establishment either going forward.

Beth, September 4 is coming. Do you hope that this young woman is able to come forward, get her charges on the table and have those charges acted upon before Joran Van Der Sloot possibly walks?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh, absolutely I hope that, and not only her.

But I don‘t have as much information about it yet, but I think there are two other young girls that are also wanting to come forward, but, you know, like I said, this is not easy for them to do. I remember how difficult it was for this young girl to come to me that was 18. And she didn‘t even have sexual assaults on committed on her from Joran, but just how he is, as far as his predatory-type behavior.

And, you know, how she described him, I am sure it was just—it was almost just identical to what was happening to Natalee in Carlos ‘n Charlie‘s. And, you know, that was difficult for her to do this, and still did not—and her parents still did not want her identity disclosed to anyone. So, it‘s very difficult.

SCARBOROUGH: And that‘s historically been one of the great problems with rape, is you have got victims who are ashamed to come forward. In this case, though, it is absolutely essential.

Anybody watching this show right now, it‘s essential you come forward for the sake of Natalee, for the sake of her mom, for the sake of her family.

What happens on September 4, Beth, if Joran is released? Do you leave Aruba, come home, or do you stay there and keep up the fight?

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh. Joe, I am not going to make any decisions until I experience it. That‘s just kind of how I have done this—this whole ordeal with Natalee. And I am just—just going to let things happen each day at a time.

I just—I—I have not planned anything since I have been here, and just going to just keep with that, Joe.

SCARBOROUGH: Beth, I have just got to ask you. You obviously sent your daughter down to Aruba, believing she was going down to a safe place, a safe environment. And yet you find out, obviously, that Carlos ‘n Charlie—I say obviously—allegedly—allows predators to hover around their bar.

You find out, obviously, that the police chief doesn‘t seem to be as interested in cracking this case open, as most Americans would like, and the Aruban government and the Dutch government also dragging their feet. What is your response to this supposedly safe island turning out just, just to be a collection of any parents‘ worst nightmare?

Clint Van Zandt, thank you so much, not only for tonight, but also what you did last week. You are really helping move this thing forward, too. Greatly appreciate it.

VAN ZANDT: Hey, Joe, you know, one other thing.

SCARBOROUGH: Sure.

VAN ZANDT: As you realize, three other women, three other women in the United States have come forward to say that, even though not connected with this case, they have been sexually assaulted in Aruba. So, you know, you have got to know where you are going and you have got to know your surroundings when you travel outside of this country.

SCARBOROUGH: And, Clint, I have said it before. If the Aruban authorities think they are going to ever be able to sweep this under the carpet, without having their economy devastated by Americans boycotting Aruba, they don‘t understand America.

Thank you all for being with us. Greatly appreciate it.

VAN ZANDT: Thank you, Joe.

HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Thank you, Joe.

 
SCARBOROUGH: Thanks a lot.